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Unexplainable
Vox·04/02/2026

Mysterious objects near the beginning of time

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Little Red Dots and the Origins of Supermassive Black Holes: JWST's Clues from the Early Universe

Overview

In this episode of Unexplainable, Vox explores the James Webb Space Telescope's discoveries in the very early universe, focusing on enigmatic little red dots and their potential to reshape our understanding of how supermassive black holes and galaxies grow together.

Guest Caitlin Casey explains leading theories such as direct collapse black holes and super-Eddington accretion, and discusses how JWST's infrared vision helps distinguish between missing galaxies and faint galaxies surrounding bright black holes. The conversation considers implications for cosmology and what future JWST observations may reveal.

Overview

The episode centers on a conversation with Caitlin Casey, an astronomer who studies data from the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST). The discussion highlights a striking JWST finding: an abundance of small, red sources in the early universe nicknamed little red dots. Casey explains how these objects could be isolated supermassive black holes, partially surrounded by stars, or perhaps a sign that galaxies themselves form after the black holes, challenging the conventional view that black holes and their host galaxies grow together. The host frames these questions within the larger context of cosmology and the infant universe, noting that JWST can peer farther back in time than ever before and reveal a picture of galaxy and black hole formation in the first few hundred million years after the Big Bang.

Quote "JWST has let us see an earlier freeze frame of the universe than we have ever seen before." - Sally Helm

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